why doesn't the watchtower simply apply the hot / crazy matrix and leave us fellas to get on with it?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbkycbdvyk.
Question by SnuggleBunny:
Why doesn't the Watchtower simply apply the Hot / Crazy Matrix and leave us fellas to get on with it?
Superb question! Both the long and short answers should be "obvious."
Long answer: While claiming to be the "channel of God" they are in reality in service to the Father of the Lie.
Short answer: They are a CULT.
Once that sinks in, Freedom begins.
i have just had a holiday.
i don't get many so this was special.
i went to italy.
Now that is really good news Phoebe! Very positive and encouraging testimony. Congratulations, you are well on your way to freedom!
the presumably "biblical" practice of limiting the way women participate in congregational matters of the wtborg cult inc. (as well as certain other sects of christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what paul meant.
i'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what paul really meant.. thoughts anyone?
aren't women more deserving of greater participation and respect?.
The presumably "Biblical" practice of limiting the way Women participate in congregational matters of the WTBorg Cult Inc. (as well as certain other sects of Christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what Paul meant. I'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what Paul really meant.
Thoughts anyone? Aren't Women more deserving of greater participation and respect?
i wrote this one the other thread, but maybe it gets lost in it.. i'm considering adding one section to my essay on the subject of shunning.
perhaps it may evolve into a book.
i think it would add considerable weight to it if i would include two or three real life stories of people who suffered shunning.
Bump it again. This is an important work of revealing the Truth about the JWBorg Cult which should be documented extensively.
i've written a blog article on the topic of jw practice of shunning, inspired by a few recent threads on jwn where the results of social psychologist stanley milgram's work on authority figures came into the discussion:.
http://awgue.weebly.com/countering-jw-shunning-how-the-implications-of-stanley-milgrams-work-may-suggest-using-a-different-approach.html.
as usual, the article will be available for reading there, but please discuss over here in this thread.. .
Really excellent discussion!
It seems that the WTBorg Cult Inc. adopted "Disfellowshiping" with shunning as an essential component of it back in 1952.
Just looked at this video today. An Orthodox Rabbi's son decided to leave Judah-ism and was "shunned" in a manner very similar to what the JWBorg are required to exercise. Perhaps a little less violent but otherwise strikingly similar in both actions and terminology. One must wonder, have the practices of Judah-ism been incorporated into WTBorg Cult Inc. policy and dogma?
so we know that by jw logic, the idea is that everyone who dies is acquitted of their sin and will get a resurrection in the "new world".
however, those directly destroyed by god, or at his command will not.
(for example, those destroyed in the flood.
The WTBorg Cult Inc. has made their "god" into some sort of "Cosmic Killjoy."
The term "Cosmic Killjoy" is not mine but one used by Hank Hanegraaff The Bible Answer Man.
It fits with what the brand of Troof which the Watchtower Society sells. Biblically Unsound with undue emphasis on Fear.
one of the main things i am trying to wrap my head around after waking up to the nonsense of jw.org is the deity of christ.. jws go out of their way to ignore him, it seems to me.
they make him out to be an angel or something.
yet, if one simply reads the scriptures, you get an entirely different picture.. doing some bible reading this morning i accidentally (long story) read the latter part of 1 john 5 and it's good stuff.. after reading it in the niv i read it in nwt and it is still pretty amazing even in that abomination of a translation.. it says.... 13 i write you these things so that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the son of god.
1 John 5:13-20 Jesus is the true God?
Is the question asking whether he is the Father and the Son? Or that the Son is perhaps really the Father?
There are many things that we do not yet know about the Heavenly Family but one day we shall. In the meantime we wonder about the several hypotheses which have been advanced regarding the Nature of God.
A Father who has a Son like Himself sounds good to me.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2017/propaganda-winning-battle-for-your-mind/.
in what is just the height of irony, watchtower warns us about propaganda, and accepting everything we hear/read.
yes, we should ignore those that try to stop us thinking critically as this watchtower article will now teach us.
Yep, agreed. It is definitely a desperation move.
Really great collective analysis! You've all nailed it!
isn't it unbelievable that a jehovah's witness must accept whatever the organization says or they can be disfellowshipped??
unless they tell you that their understanding has changed, you cannot believe anything unless they say it's ok. .
many years ago i questioned them about their ridiculous view that whenever the word "heart" was mentioned, it was a literal blood filled organ.
so we know that by jw logic, the idea is that everyone who dies is acquitted of their sin and will get a resurrection in the "new world".
however, those directly destroyed by god, or at his command will not.
(for example, those destroyed in the flood.
In Truth, the Bible does tell us who will be resurrected. All will be resurrected.
Not a single one will be forgotten. The Son of Man came to save the Whole World.
The period of Judgment and the Lake of Fire will refine all of us - even the very "worst."
We do not know yet the details on how all who've suffered great injustice will be compensated or how those who've done grievous acts of murder and mayhem will be rehabilitated, but it will be done.
